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Strength of face-nailed connection for stair steps



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowAngle Iron Cleat at Slab-Slab connectionUnbraced Length for Lateral Torsional Buckling vs. Yield Strengthbest way to reinforce existing structural header?Center of Gravity of Precast Concrete StepsMathematical representation of hinge and pin connectionConnection for beam very close to concrete wallStrength optimization of a hollow cylinderDesigning a pin connectionWind load of panelRecommendations on a rigid connection between materials










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I'm building a loft ladder with alternating-tread steps. The stringers are 2x6 White Spruce, and I'm hoping to build the steps out of the same material.



picture of alternating-step ladder



The span for the steps is 21". Code requires handling a maximum point load of 300 pounds at the step center, or a live load of 40psf, whichever is higher.



If I've done the math right, steps made from 2x6 white spruce laid flat will meet that requirement.



However, I'm unable to find reliable information about the connection between the steps and the stringer. I'm hoping to attach the steps with three 16d 3.5" nails on the wide side, and two 16d 3.5" nails on the narrow side.



My main concern being the limited amount of wood above the fastener in the step member causing failure.



How can I determine the maximum load the connection can bear in this configuration:



CAD drawing of member connection and nail










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    I'm building a loft ladder with alternating-tread steps. The stringers are 2x6 White Spruce, and I'm hoping to build the steps out of the same material.



    picture of alternating-step ladder



    The span for the steps is 21". Code requires handling a maximum point load of 300 pounds at the step center, or a live load of 40psf, whichever is higher.



    If I've done the math right, steps made from 2x6 white spruce laid flat will meet that requirement.



    However, I'm unable to find reliable information about the connection between the steps and the stringer. I'm hoping to attach the steps with three 16d 3.5" nails on the wide side, and two 16d 3.5" nails on the narrow side.



    My main concern being the limited amount of wood above the fastener in the step member causing failure.



    How can I determine the maximum load the connection can bear in this configuration:



    CAD drawing of member connection and nail










    share|improve this question







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      I'm building a loft ladder with alternating-tread steps. The stringers are 2x6 White Spruce, and I'm hoping to build the steps out of the same material.



      picture of alternating-step ladder



      The span for the steps is 21". Code requires handling a maximum point load of 300 pounds at the step center, or a live load of 40psf, whichever is higher.



      If I've done the math right, steps made from 2x6 white spruce laid flat will meet that requirement.



      However, I'm unable to find reliable information about the connection between the steps and the stringer. I'm hoping to attach the steps with three 16d 3.5" nails on the wide side, and two 16d 3.5" nails on the narrow side.



      My main concern being the limited amount of wood above the fastener in the step member causing failure.



      How can I determine the maximum load the connection can bear in this configuration:



      CAD drawing of member connection and nail










      share|improve this question







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      I'm building a loft ladder with alternating-tread steps. The stringers are 2x6 White Spruce, and I'm hoping to build the steps out of the same material.



      picture of alternating-step ladder



      The span for the steps is 21". Code requires handling a maximum point load of 300 pounds at the step center, or a live load of 40psf, whichever is higher.



      If I've done the math right, steps made from 2x6 white spruce laid flat will meet that requirement.



      However, I'm unable to find reliable information about the connection between the steps and the stringer. I'm hoping to attach the steps with three 16d 3.5" nails on the wide side, and two 16d 3.5" nails on the narrow side.



      My main concern being the limited amount of wood above the fastener in the step member causing failure.



      How can I determine the maximum load the connection can bear in this configuration:



      CAD drawing of member connection and nail







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          I suggest cutting slots in the stringers to hold the steps putting the load on wood and not 3 nails which will work loose or split the wood.



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